Grit Breather
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:39:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:Today I went on to IRC and asked the devs, why don't tanks show on radar when i can see a clone. Didn't get a reply so I thought I would talk here.
Basically today i had a tank at my back close enough to be on radar but it didn't show up.
So, should we try and convince CCP to change this. ?
First, some answers. Some of which have already been stated so I'll be repeating some data.
Every vehicle and suit in DUST has a signature of some magnitude. These are measured in dB, and I believe that confuses some people. That is a dB unit which does not represent sound. It represents the amount of "distortion" the unit causes which allows it to show up on scanners of varying sensitivities.
As you can see here, a Gunnlogi has a signature radius of 200 dB. That's a massive signature. I don't think any suit has anything beyond 65 dB.
It's safe to say that no scanner in DUST lacks the sensitivity to pick up a HAV.
The second thing, though, are passive scan radius valus. Most suits and vehicles in DUST only have a passive 360 scan out to 10m away. The only exceptions are light suits with a 16m scan radius. These are, of course, extendable with modules.
The final point, and this is debatable, is where these 10m are measured to. My personal belief is that due to game design (not the best), this is measured to centre mass instead of outer most part. This basically means you could lose 2-4m in scanning distance when trying to pick up a HAV on passive scanner.
It sucks, but that's my current theory.
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Grit Breather
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Posted - 2014.01.22 00:57:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:There has to be something broken somewhere with radar identification. Every now and again I can't even get tanks to show up when I use a quantum scanner. I was in a building yesterday in a match, and even though the tank was right outside on the other side of the wall, and I did a 360 scan, starting with near where the tank was, it never showed up.
Did you make sure to keep the tank within your cone for an entire scan pulse?
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Grit Breather
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Posted - 2014.01.22 01:08:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Yes indeed, I scanned twice even. He never moved. It picked up the infantry over in that area but not the tank. Only reason I knew he was there in the first place was I saw him myself when I looked around the corner for flankers. I thought it was complete BS. Has happened to me in other maps as well, particularly the research facilities. It's actually one reason I've died more than usual in those areas is because after doing a scan sweep and eliminating all reds in the vicinity with my CR, I found myself get gunned down by a blaster tank from behind in a street that never showed up in my scans.
It's like WiFi. Too much metal and concrete - nothing works.
"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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